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Resolved Question: George Lucas: I don't understand what's going on, or if its true but is there any way to stop this?

8 August 2010, 4:20 pm

(sorry about the typos) i am going to paste from a facebook group cause i'm not great at wording things: This year it was announced that George Lucas's disregard for canon has gone to a new atrocious level. First elaborated by renowned Star Wars novel author Karen Traviss (Legacy of the Force, Republic Commando) , a massive retcon has taken place regarding the warrior culture of Mandalorians. Traviss has revealed the following: "When I was finishing 501st in January this year, I was told about a significant continuity change coming up in the Clone Wars cartoon. (As was mentioned and shown in a couple of books that came out in the summer - this is not confidential information of any kind now.) I was told that the Mandalorians were being revamped as long-standing pacifists who'd given up fighting centuries ago and that Mandalore was now a post-apocalyptic wasteland devastated by war. I was told not to refer to (recent) Mandalorian history because of that, as it was obviously at odds with the old continuity in my novels. That's fairly common procedure for any franchise - but unfortunately it wasn't that simple in practice. The two Commando series - and quite a few older books and comics, come to that -were based entirely on that original history, and basic logic meant that the fundamental plot of the series could never have existed if this had been a pacifist society. Neither could any of the characters or their motives have existed, because they were wholly based on a global warrior culture living on a non-nuked Mandalore. I had some discussion in January with the editor about possible ways around the problem, but after that, I heard nothing to indicate that the position would change, so the plan went ahead to wind up my existing storyline in the two books that were already in the pipeline. It was too late for me to rewrite 501st even if the changes hadn't made that pretty well impossible." As Traviss has indicated this retcon stretches deep into Star Wars lore and could affect numerous storylines that have already been published. Please join if you support my cause. OK 'let's go through and point out things that are now False in the Star Wars EU universe. Stat with the main key points. 1-Jango was not Mandalorian at all. Would that make him Death Watch then? 2-Boba has no reason to wear the Mythosaur on his armor as it represents the Mandalorian culture as we know it. EU things tha...t are now untrue. 3-Does this mean Anakin Solo is not dead now that the Vong story was changed? 4-Who won the Vong invasion now? 5-Boba does not build an elite Mando super trooper squad to battle the Vong. 6-Jacen Solo does not become a Sith Lord therefore is not dead. 7-Mara Jade is now also not dead now that the story arc has changed! Any others you can think of that is most likely in the starwars.com Database that are now untrue? Wait, Jango wasn't Mando? But...but...I thought he was from Concord Dawn!! It's been long established....hasn't it?? WAIT----the Vong story was changed?!?!?!? OUTRAGEOUS! Jacen solo......Didn't become a Sith?! OH MY WORD!!! He needs to think... about what he is doing and BACKTRACK!!! Gall! Look at the Legacy comics........if the Vong arc was changed, then Ossus/Wayland could, theoretically, NOT have happened!! And, many Legacy plotlines are now defunct, especially Lady Maladi having died when her laboratory was destroyed, bec...ause there was no laboratory, because there was no vengeful Yuzhan Vong!!! Good gol! George was bought out by cartoon network + Disney bought half the rights to star wars so I was expecting shit. But really I wasn't expecting them to change everything about Mandalorians to change. If it wasn't for the fact that show was geared towards kids they wouldn't have changed it Yeah, disney is now allowed to parody star wars and sell star wars merchandise, go walk around Down Town Disney in Florida same, last time I was in Disney I was okay with the Star Wars show and ride at the Holly Wood Studios, but when I saw a parody of the Ep. IV poster, with Mickey Mouse=Luke Skywalker Minny Mouse=Leia Goofy=Han I hope disney dies..why would George Lucas give them copy rights..?? They bought 'em why would he sell them I think they might've bought part of Lucas Arts since they bought indiana jones Walt Disney is already dead.. ;-) But honestly, why does Disney need the rights of Star Wars??? What does the one have to do with the other? Unfortunately, this bitch-slap is only felt by fans of the whole Star Wars universe. I tred to explain this to a friend that doesn't read any EU at all but I don't know if he understands the ripples this has made. Imagine if whoever is currently in charge of original (non-Abrams) STAR TREK said that from now on the off...icial continuity is that Spock NEVER, EVER served on the ship under Kirk's command and there is nothing command and there is nothing you can do about it. EXACTLY!! it would screw up the entire thing, trekkies would commit suicide by the hundreds, they would stop making $$$ and Star Trek would entirely shut down, it would fall apart and cease to exist. Why the paradox?? WHY!??! This is DISGUSTING! soemone should do something!! Come on!! ...Either way you look at it: The mando's are warriors!! or, the mando's are hate mongers!!!! But they're NOT pacifist fer cryin in the mudd!!! Nor is their land 'barren'............good gol! Read Legacy, even up to those times, LotF era and Legacy era, they are fighting and fighting for honor, for the thrill, battling, warriors! Goodness Greivous!! George Lucas is MAD!!!! And you can tell him I said so!!! HE CAN'T DO THIS!!!!!!!!For the love of the Force, STOP THE MADNESS!!!!! WHAT in the galaxy is he THINKING?!?! Does he REALISE that this makes almost a THIRD of the plotlines in the GALAXY defunct?!? Star Wars is CRUBMLING TO PEICES!! FALLING TO PEICES!! Someone has to STOP this madman!!! Oh, goll, I KNEW SW:TCW was gon...na RUIN star wars!!! This has gone FAR ENOUGH!!! Somebody needs to contact this man!! SOMEBODY NEEDS TO CONTACT GEORGE LUCAS!!! SAVE STAR WARS!!! Is there anything we as fans can really do about this? I hate this. I love Mano'ade and this cartoon horrificus cannot continue. What can we do to get George Lucas to Un-screw this. Maybe we can write an open letter to George Lucas himself, telling him what a bullshit that is. I doupt that he is aware off the bad mood among the SW-fans that he caused by his desicion to make the Mandos Pacifists - or he doesn'r care. In both cases he needs to be told that we do not tolerate this total canon-messup. Sighned by enough fans it should have at least a little impact. Does anyone know his address? Nils Baete: I don't look Clone Wars series but i heard there where only Mando pacifists in one episode and it was some community, but they were not the only Mandalorians there where also other REAL Mandalorians. Ok those Mando pacifist had control over Mandalore (the planet) in that episode wich is kinda dumb but except for that and for that fact they call themself "Mandalorians" (wich they are not in my eyes cause they don't follow the "Resol'nare" (Six actions)) it won't have such great implications that all Mandalorians will be changed into pacifists. Or am i wrong? Btw Mandalore can't be a pacifist world forever cause after the movies Boba Fett "lives" on Mandalore being The Mandalore, and it's not pacifist at that time. Btw: somewhere in the CW series showed up a "Mandalorian" with a BLACK lightsaber! WTF a black lightsaber is impossible cause black is NOT a form of light. So these CW series are just crap, they should have made them correctly or not made them at all >:( . Nils Baete, i am hoping this is right!! Are you talking about the 'deathwatch' trilogy? because maybe....just MAYBE........lucas told Traviss not to write about that time period because of this and she had had a book really involved in CW era that couldn't continue, but other things are not affected, such as boba/jango, the Yuzhaan Vong wars, the LotF, etcetera? it could be that the deathwatch trilogy is what was really going on, and mandalorians as we know them are not really going to crumble, as long as they DON'T go back to TOR era, because KotOR and the SW:TOR MMO depend HEAVILY on the Mando's being jingoistic and militant, some would say valiant. But if the paciifism began during an undocumented place in history, perhaps between TOR and CW eras, and ended sometime bbetween CW (deathwatch in particular) and Galactic Civil War eras, or at LEAST the era of the Yuzzhaan Vong wars, then it should still be okay. maybe it won't screw up established plotlines too bad?? I HOPE this is the one we're talking about!! But serilously, EVERYONE tell EVERYONE YOU KNOW to come join this page, and make sure they DO IT, and we could create a petition!! I like Angelika Mühlnikel's idea to create 'open letter to George Lucas himself' and get it to him if that's possible. Get him to get back the rights to his own legacy for cryin' out loud, that would help a lot!! he's just trying to get more kid viewers is what it is, people who've only ever heard of Anakin or Boba because of the SW:TCW show and haven't even seen the movies, even the original trilogy fer cryin out loud!!, and think Count Dooku is the most powerful Sith ever (because they've never heard of Exar Kun). We REALLY need to do a petition, and i don't know how, but if somebody can set one up, I will do WHATEVER it takes to reverse this spiral!!!!!! PLEASE! SOMEBODY, DO SOMETHING!!! ................in conclusion, as you can see, this is very much confusing me and I am devastated by this if it is as far reaching as some say, i am hoping it is not true some of the comments are mine. (ps please excuse the profanity i did not write it i just pasted it its not mine) this is from a facebook group protesting the change, is there anything fans can do about it? does anyone have accurate information on the situation at all?? please somebody help me sort this out!! it's bad enough already with Legacy comics ending prematurely and whatnot, but now THIS?? this could potentially destroy the whole star wars canon and universe! i need some answers here :'(... Read More »

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